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		<title>By: Max Pool</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-7672</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Pool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike - Find a job that doesn&#039;t suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike &#8211; Find a job that doesn&#8217;t suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-7664</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what you&#039;re missing... if you only work 8 to 5 then you will be fired by that buffoon middle manager who doesnt know squat about A) programming and B) managing. 

Now what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what you&#8217;re missing&#8230; if you only work 8 to 5 then you will be fired by that buffoon middle manager who doesnt know squat about A) programming and B) managing. </p>
<p>Now what?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-4204</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way, man. 10-4 is the new 8-5. I get enough ideas about work outside of the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way, man. 10-4 is the new 8-5. I get enough ideas about work outside of the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikola Malovic</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikola Malovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true..

Great blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true..</p>
<p>Great blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-2552</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...  and will you find me a new job when I leave at 5pm?   Dont think for a moment that management isnt going to put a help-wanted ad in the paper for my job the moment I begin to leave at 5pm.  Doesnt matter if I came in a 5:45am.  No one sees that so I guess it doesnt count toward overtime.  

What we really, truly, need to do is to band together and unionize ourselves.  I&#039;ll tell you what, make fun of unions all you want but when they tried to build a skyscraper in Philadelphia with plumbing/no toilets (some sort of new flushless toilet system), dont you think that the plumber&#039;s union struck against the developer?  They sued and they won.  The verdict was to FORCE the developer to put the pipes in (read: plumbers get to work and get paid) just in case the building ever needs to transition away from flushless toilets.

We need a union.  Corporate America has crapped on software developers far too long.  

Just imagine all of us sitting in the parking lot one day.  I dont believe my company could fill several hundred developers&#039; positions by 9am when the crap would hit the fan if we werent there.

Something to think about.  Something to act on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;  and will you find me a new job when I leave at 5pm?   Dont think for a moment that management isnt going to put a help-wanted ad in the paper for my job the moment I begin to leave at 5pm.  Doesnt matter if I came in a 5:45am.  No one sees that so I guess it doesnt count toward overtime.  </p>
<p>What we really, truly, need to do is to band together and unionize ourselves.  I&#8217;ll tell you what, make fun of unions all you want but when they tried to build a skyscraper in Philadelphia with plumbing/no toilets (some sort of new flushless toilet system), dont you think that the plumber&#8217;s union struck against the developer?  They sued and they won.  The verdict was to FORCE the developer to put the pipes in (read: plumbers get to work and get paid) just in case the building ever needs to transition away from flushless toilets.</p>
<p>We need a union.  Corporate America has crapped on software developers far too long.  </p>
<p>Just imagine all of us sitting in the parking lot one day.  I dont believe my company could fill several hundred developers&#8217; positions by 9am when the crap would hit the fan if we werent there.</p>
<p>Something to think about.  Something to act on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed El-Beltagy</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-2551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed El-Beltagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also learned my lessons; but very late.
I have worked for three companies, and each one of them I was staying late to do meet the unreasonable deadline of the project. Most of the projects it was either a/like a one-man-show.
I remember one of the projects was:
- Scheduled for 3 senior developers
- Scheduled to be implemented in a year and a half (time frame)
- Actually, started with only me as the only developer in the project.
- In our kick-off meeting, the PM started saying: &quot;We are one year behind the schedule&quot;!!!!!!
- I finished it on time and it was a successful project.

What was the result??? My team leader got promoted... (looool)
Very strange, isn&#039;t it? And even stranger that same happened to me in my last couple of projects as well. And not even a thank you letter, email or even word..!!
My last task I was assigned, my manager was very afraid of not having it done!!

The list can continue on and on. So, all they are getting from me is: my 8-5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also learned my lessons; but very late.<br />
I have worked for three companies, and each one of them I was staying late to do meet the unreasonable deadline of the project. Most of the projects it was either a/like a one-man-show.<br />
I remember one of the projects was:<br />
- Scheduled for 3 senior developers<br />
- Scheduled to be implemented in a year and a half (time frame)<br />
- Actually, started with only me as the only developer in the project.<br />
- In our kick-off meeting, the PM started saying: &#8220;We are one year behind the schedule&#8221;!!!!!!<br />
- I finished it on time and it was a successful project.</p>
<p>What was the result??? My team leader got promoted&#8230; (looool)<br />
Very strange, isn&#8217;t it? And even stranger that same happened to me in my last couple of projects as well. And not even a thank you letter, email or even word..!!<br />
My last task I was assigned, my manager was very afraid of not having it done!!</p>
<p>The list can continue on and on. So, all they are getting from me is: my 8-5.</p>
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		<title>By: Usman Shaheen</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>Usman Shaheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]Late night heroics should be an exception and not the expectation[...]</description>
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		<title>By: Secret of working 8-5 &#171; Usman&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret of working 8-5 &#171; Usman&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Terry Kilshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Kilshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like torture, working long hours produces plenty of output, its just not that useful.

Every serious programmer knows when to call it quits for the day; that pushing on for another hour won&#039;t produce anything useful. And that the same problem looked at after a good night&#039;s sleep will often resolve itself.


Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like torture, working long hours produces plenty of output, its just not that useful.</p>
<p>Every serious programmer knows when to call it quits for the day; that pushing on for another hour won&#8217;t produce anything useful. And that the same problem looked at after a good night&#8217;s sleep will often resolve itself.</p>
<p>Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Yakov Fain</title>
		<link>http://www.codesqueeze.com/the-secret-to-only-working-8-5/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakov Fain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blogged on the subjet too:
http://yakovfain.javadevelopersjournal.com/why_are_you_working_overtime.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blogged on the subjet too:<br />
<a href="http://yakovfain.javadevelopersjournal.com/why_are_you_working_overtime.htm" rel="nofollow">http://yakovfain.javadeveloper.....ertime.htm</a></p>
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